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Old April 29th, 2003, 10:13 AM   #11
doug_d (Cameron Park, CA)
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howdy...

i'm a silver '98 with SMILIN license...usually #986. i'm no longer a committed autox'er...been to about 1 autox each of the last couple of years. hope to double that in '03!

marina is too darn'd far. it's HELL for me to get out of SF back to sac. alameda is ok, but the stars haven't aligned yet. there is an svr autox in stockton at the end of june that i hope to make.

i'll be sure to keep an eye out for you. please do the same.
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Old April 29th, 2003, 10:48 AM   #12
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Marina? The May 31st event is at GG Fields in Emeryville. *NM*

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Old April 29th, 2003, 12:38 PM   #13
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well i may get off of my a__ for that!

marina was just a reference to a regular stop on the pca circuit that i'm not willing to go to.
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Old April 29th, 2003, 01:36 PM   #14
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Ahh, yes. I agree. I think GGR only goes to Marina twice a year.

The 3 regular stops are GG Fields, Alameda Point, and 3 Com Park. All of these are within 10 miles of my home but I live in downtown SF.
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Old April 29th, 2003, 02:32 PM   #15
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Re: Cayenne auto crosser - pic *NM*

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Old April 29th, 2003, 02:34 PM   #16
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Oh no! It's gonna rollover! *NM*

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Old April 29th, 2003, 02:35 PM   #17
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Re: Ed auto crosser - pic *NM*

more pics
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Old April 29th, 2003, 03:13 PM   #18
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Thanks! *NM*

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Old April 29th, 2003, 04:13 PM   #19
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Cayenne Turbo vs. 911 Turbo

A 2000 996 Turbo weighs 3395.1 pounds and has a 3.6 liter engine.
Top speed is 188.9mph and it does zero to sixty in 4.00 seconds. Thats pretty ripping fast.

A 2003 Cayenne Turbo weighs a beastly 5191.9 pounds, and has an equally beasty 4.511 liter engine.
Top speed is 165.6mph and it does zero to sixty in a respectable 5.5 seconds.

So, I'd say Hurley was chasing the Cayenne, but wasn't really trying to pass it!

BTW, someone's fast 0-60 car list...
1. 2.6 seconds 1994 Dauer 962 LeMans
2. 2.7 seconds 2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept
3. 2.7 seconds 1999 Leblanc Caroline
4. 2.8 seconds 1995 Renault Espace F1 Concept
5. 2.9 seconds 1991 Audi Avus Quattro Concept
6. 2.9 seconds 1995 McLaren F1 LM
7. 3.0 seconds 1999 Ferrari Koenig F50
8. 3.0 seconds 1995 Jimenez Novia Concept
9. 3.0 seconds 1999 Nissan Blitz Skyline GT-R R348
10. 3.0 seconds 1994 Schuppan 962CR
11. 3.1 seconds 2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT
12. 3.1 seconds 1995 Ford GT90 Concept
13. 3.1 seconds 1990 Jaguar XJR-15
14. 3.2 seconds 2000 Koenigsegg CC
15. 3.2 seconds 1996 Lamborghini Diablo VTTT
16. 3.2 seconds 1991 Lotec C1000
17. 3.2 seconds 1992 Yamaha OX99-11
18. 3.3 seconds 1992 Bugatti EB110 SS
19. 3.3 seconds 1994 Bugatti Rinspeed EB110 Cyan Concept
20. 3.3 seconds 1999 Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 650R
21. 3.3 seconds 1998 Lamborghini Diablo Evolution GTR
22. 3.3 seconds 2000 Ultima GTR
23. 3.4 seconds 1997 McLaren F1
24. 3.4 seconds 1998 Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR
25. 3.4 seconds 2000 Mercedes-Benz Renntech CLK GTX
26. 3.4 seconds 1997 Porsche 911 GT1
27. 3.4 seconds 1982 Westfield SEI
28. 3.5 seconds 1999 Evans Series 3 LeMans
29. 3.5 seconds 1985 Ferrari Koenig Competition Evolution
30. 3.5 seconds 1991 Koenig C62
31. 3.5 seconds 1997 Lamborghini Diablo Evolution GT1
32. 3.5 seconds 1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
33. 3.5 seconds 2000 Mosler MT900
34. 3.5 seconds 1997 Porsche Ruf CTR-2 Sport
35. 3.5 seconds 1998 Porsche Ruf Turbo R
36. 3.6 seconds 2000 Dodge TNT King Snake Viper
37. 3.6 seconds 1995 Ferrari 333 SP
38. 3.6 seconds 1997 Ferrari F50
39. 3.6 seconds 2000 Ferrari Koenig 360 Modena
40. 3.6 seconds 1991 Italdesign Nazca C2 Concept
41. 3.6 seconds 1994 Piontek Sportech
42. 3.6 seconds 1998 Porsche 911 GT1 Evo
43. 3.6 seconds 1993 Porsche Ruf BTR 3.8
44. 3.6 seconds 1997 Porsche Ruf CTR-2
45. 3.6 seconds 2001 Porsche TechArt 911 Turbo
46. 3.7 seconds 1998 Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 600
47. 3.7 seconds 1998 Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 600 GTS
48. 3.7 seconds 1999 Lamborghini Diablo GT
49. 3.7 seconds 2001 Lotec Sirius Concept
50. 3.7 seconds 2000 Marcos Mantis GT




Fastest 0-60 times - top 50
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Old April 30th, 2003, 08:50 AM   #20
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Hurley was in a 911, not a 911 Turbo

0-60 times are more influenced by weight than drag.
Above 60mph, acceleration is more influenced by drag than weight.

The Cayenne Turbo has a decent power to weight ratio but an even better power to drag ratio. The 911 is better suited to low speed acceleration than high speed acceleration because it's power to weight ratio is better than it's power to drag ratio.

The critical stats would be 60 - 130mph time and not 0-60. How many times do cars come to a stop on a road course? The Cayenne Turbo almost definitely would pull away from a 911 between the corners. Not by a bunch, but by some.

I do guess that you are right and that if Hurley was driving this 911 the way he drove at Le Mans or Daytona, then he could have gotten by. But I do believe the Cayenne Turbo is a worthy opponent of the 911 on a road course as indicated if by nothing else, its performance on the North Loop which was closer to the GT3 lap time than the Boxster S's.
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